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Adam.
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 Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: Best place to buy Econ bumper plates? |
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I have looked at a few places but wanted to seenif anyokne has already had experience with the economy models of bumper plates. I am considering just getting a single pair of the extra wide style and then using smaller metal plates for additional weights but I actually suddenly can't find the extra wide style...
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tychver
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Are you just looking for lighter full diamteter plates for warmup/technique work or do you want to be able to drop the bar? If you drop a bar with two cheap 10kg bumper plates and over 10kg of metal on each wide the bumpers aren't going to last very long.
If you just want to be able to practice technique from the floor with a light weight then get some thick plywood, cut a bunch of plate shaped circles and laminate them together. Shrink wrap around the edges to stop it catching and splitting. Much cheaper than going and buying $50 10 or 20lb bumpers!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I was looking to use 45lb / 20kg plates as a single pair with additional metal plates beyond it. They won't last? I need to be able to drop the bar as I plan on adding in high pulls without a catch.
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| Adam. wrote: | | I was looking to use 45lb / 20kg plates as a single pair with additional metal plates beyond it. They won't last? I need to be able to drop the bar as I plan on adding in high pulls without a catch. |
They won't thank you for slapping heaps of iron alongside them. Our Eleiko's start behaving differently and you can see the distortion in the plates when you drop the bar with a lot of iron relative to the bumers. I certainly wouldn't load more than another 20kg each side in iron.
Why do you want to do high pulls? And btw olympic lifters usually use straps and attempt to "hold" the top of the pull. Except for the chinese who do a quick turnover.
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High pulls allow the ability to get an explosive weighted movement in either the strength speed or speed strength without the complexity or risk of a catch of a clean variation.
It doesn't mean that I won't do cleans, I will, just not with any appreciable weight. Just about every oly lifter I know has gone through some type of wrist injury as a result of lifting and I don't want to risk that as I am simply using it as another form of training.
And yes, you can argue I am missing an important part of the training effect without the eccentric of the catch, but I know this already. Jump squats take a (expletive) on my back and my weight vest is just plain too light.
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You could get yourself a MIR weight vest. I have a 60 pounder, but they have heavier ones. Great for upper body work too.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam. wrote: | High pulls allow the ability to get an explosive weighted movement in either the strength speed or speed strength without the complexity or risk of a catch of a clean variation.
It doesn't mean that I won't do cleans, I will, just not with any appreciable weight. Just about every oly lifter I know has gone through some type of wrist injury as a result of lifting and I don't want to risk that as I am simply using it as another form of training.
And yes, you can argue I am missing an important part of the training effect without the eccentric of the catch, but I know this already. Jump squats take a (expletive) on my back and my weight vest is just plain too light. |
I think the jumping clean pull is better than high pulls for pure power development. With the high pull there's a tendency to pull your self down towards the bar giving an illusion of height which doesn't really happen with a jumping clean pull. Talk to adarqui about them.
You're preaching to the choir where wrist injuries are concerned. After pinning mine in a stupid attempt on a 110kg clean it took about 3 months to heal. It should be damn near impossible in a powerclean though provided your form is decent.
I'm also dubious of how much of a training effect you really get from the catch. You should be receiving the bar at nearly perfect catch height anyway. If the bar is coming down on you in the clean you probably bent the elbows. My back hates jumpsquats too 
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Adam, if you are looking to do heavy jump squats - which are awesome, I would say the best ways I have found are
1) trap bar
2) a heavy weight vest - which I like because it can be used for other things
3) my favorite thing - the power jumper (but you would still probably need to add some weights somehow - bu tthen I haven't tried it with the extra hardcore cords Lance told me about recently)
4) or a combination of the above.
I think you have a trap bar - you should give that a go first.
Cheers
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Ty- maybe I am saying the wrong variation, but a jumping clean pull sounds like a high pull, at least, that is how the coaches around here refer to it. Jumping is optional obviously but something I would do.
Jack, not a bad idea on the trap bar!
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